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City
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ou7cWOTXJs

who else is pumped the ****ed up?

Please no spoilers. and if you have to spoil something, mark them with a big warning space or use the spoiler insert. some a****** spoiled the season 3 finale for me so the whole time i was watching it, i was like 'please dont let it be true' and it was true. it was still awesome, but damn it, i wish i had no idea. sad.gif

yup. in the mean time, let's discuss the webisodes

edit: damnit, it's suppose to say 2008 not 2007.
Lenny
Weren't the producers and writers of Lost killed by a string of rogue numbers back in Season 3?

tongue.gif

Do you know if they've written all the episodes yet? Because if they haven't, you could be waiting for a while yet.
Gilbert
they've written 8 of the planned 16 episodes for season 4. So, hopefully, the strike is resolved soon and it won't have an unintended hiatus.
erin_hiwatari
^phew, that's a relief! wink.gif

i wanna know what the **** is going on on that island, DAMMIT! angry.gif hahaha
Lenny
QUOTE(erin_hiwatari @ Dec 19 2007, 04:35 AM) *
^phew, that's a relief! wink.gif

i wanna know what the **** is going on on that island, DAMMIT! angry.gif hahaha

You'll never know what's going on. They'll keep expanding the plot until the viewership completely switches off and the show is cancelled.

It will end unsatisfyingly or be unfinished.

HAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! I am so evil. laugh.gif
poeticnewageretrohippie
i saw 2 random episodes of lost a few nights ago. and i want to watch the next season. but my mom told me its impossible and ill never pick it up, and one can never start or stop watching lost, one must have seen EVERY EPISODE to ~*understand*~

well im a believer, so howwzzzabout someone gives me a quick summary of first three seasons? im batting my eyes right now, pretty pretty please.
City
QUOTE(poeticnewageretrohippie @ Dec 20 2007, 07:50 AM) *
i saw 2 random episodes of lost a few nights ago. and i want to watch the next season. but my mom told me its impossible and ill never pick it up, and one can never start or stop watching lost, one must have seen EVERY EPISODE to ~*understand*~

well im a believer, so howwzzzabout someone gives me a quick summary of first three seasons? im batting my eyes right now, pretty pretty please.


rent or buy or download the first 3 seasons. i don't care if you want to watch it the same time the world is watching it. it'll just make more sense and you'll appreciate it more if you watch it first. there's so many 'HOLY s***' moments that by reading them in a summary, it will kill the show for you.
poeticnewageretrohippie
QUOTE(City @ Dec 20 2007, 04:27 PM) *
rent or buy or download the first 3 seasons. i don't care if you want to watch it the same time the world is watching it. it'll just make more sense and you'll appreciate it more if you watch it first. there's so many 'HOLY s***' moments that by reading them in a summary, it will kill the show for you.


yeah good points. i think ill rent. in the 2 random episodes i saw, even though i had no idea what was going on, i could recognize people and make connections and a few shocking things happened. lost seems like the kind of show where EVERY EPISODE IS A NEW TWIST. i have a really boring month ahead of me.. so catch up on lost it is!
Hayds
I'm a BIG fan of LOST smile.gif I can't wait for the new season biggrin.gif
Juneau
SPOILERS....I THINK.

Personally, I think most of season 4's story will revolve around the islanders being split up into the "Locke" team and the "Jack" team, with the Lockies wanting to stay on the island (like Rose, for instance) and the Jackies wanting to escape. I know this whole Jack/Locke rivalry thing has been going on since day one, but I think it'll really start heating up in season 4.

Hopefully the writers have learnt from their past mistakes. The whole "hatch" story from season 2 dragged on for WAY too long...
emptytuesday
QUOTE(Gilbert @ Dec 18 2007, 07:37 AM) *
they've written 8 of the planned 16 episodes for season 4. So, hopefully, the strike is resolved soon and it won't have an unintended hiatus.


Why have they only made 8 in those MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS of NOOO Lost before the strike.

s***'s weak.

Webisodes = weak. Give me a full episode.

Um...Last episode of last season = amazing? Agree? Y/N?
JK852
The end of episode 8 is supposed to be a huge cliffhanger according to the producers. They claim it would frustrate the hell out of the fans to stall on such a note while the WGA strike is still ongoing. Could be true, could be hype. Whatever the case, I'm excited!
emptytuesday
Lost is the only thing on TV to look forward to.
Rosie
You really do need to see it all.

I'm excited for new episodes smile.gif Not watching any spoilers though!!
epsilonwolf
*WARNING*SPOILERS*

I think there's going to be a real blood fest in these coming 8 episodes. With all the minor character deaths last season and the none too surprising Locke fake-out, we've been lulled into an unsuspecting comfort zone. And then they'll hit us...WHAAAMO!!!!

Sawyer, "Hey what's up with the scythe boney shawl guy?"
*WHACK!*
Jack, "I'll need to use this experimental 10 blade razor if I'm going to get this mange off...urgh my throat!"
*GURGLE!PLOP!*
Kate, "Ooh I'm so constipated. Can't you tell I've had this look on my face since season 1..."
*KERBLOOEY!!!*


As far as I'm concerned they can go ahead and kill anyone except Locke and Juliette. Julliette...yummy...
City
I'm sure you losties already know, but yeah, season 4 starts tomorrow. and they are airing the season 3 finale again tonight, but with added 'pop ups.'
emptytuesday
So excite
epsilonwolf
"We have to go back Kate. WE HAVE TO GO BAAAACK!!!"

I still can't get over last season's finale.
Gilbert
This Pop-Up LOST is kinda lame.
epsilonwolf
I'm sure everyone has noticed by now most of the island inhabitants including an 'other' have father issues. More interesting for the fact all the 'others' believed Locke's dad had to kick the bucket before he could find his so to speak "place on the island." Did the others also venerate Ben when he offed his dad?

In the same vein, all mothers die on the island. Weird.

Biblical intimations? Adam and Eve were cast out of paradise for taking from the tree of knowledge. One metaphorical interpretation of the tree of knowledge is the taste of the apple has to do with carnal knowledge. The power to procreate which rivals god's creative power. Does the island also have to cast off these rivals?
City
because this is episode 1 of season 4, i'll be nice and use spoiler tags, but in the future, its fair game.



HURLEY HAS TO GO BACK!

well, looks like jack is back to normal. but they gave hints as to what happened on the island, now i'm not sure who to root for. Everyone is gonna die sad.gif...or just has to hide.

hurley saw jacob?

it wasn't mind blowing, but it was a natural progression i feel. i love this show.

JK852
QUOTE(City @ Jan 31 2008, 10:16 PM) *
because this is episode 1 of season 4, i'll be nice and use spoiler tags, but in the future, its fair game.


well, looks like jack is back to normal.


Nah. Hurley's flashforward happened before Jack went nuts. During their game of HORSE, Jack said he wanted to grow a beard.
City
blah, screw spoiler tags, if they havent seen the episode yet, they shouldn be here.

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jk852, you're right about that, i forgot that tiny detail.

Gilbert
I bet only six actually left the island. They might all be alive, just not *~home~*
City
i think its pretty much confirmed that only 6 leave, now who are the other 3. aww. i'm so impressed that the writers are able to make the flash forwards work so well with the current story. amazing.
emptytuesday
Why did Charlie have to die?

DEPRESSION has immersed my inner beingggg.
Gilbert
QUOTE(emptytuesday @ Feb 1 2008, 10:31 AM) *
Why did Charlie have to die?

DEPRESSION has immersed my inner beingggg.
because he was an idiot.

That was the dumbest death I have EVER seen.
Krista
Gahh. This show drives me crazy! I mean, well, I love it, but I can't believe they're dragging it out 'til 2010... they should've just done 2 seasons of 24 instead of 3 of 16. I am not a patient person! And it'll really annoy me if they do have to go on hiatus after 8 episodes because of the strike...

And I really wish it was still on Wednesdays, or on at 10... I'm at work while it's on sad.gif
City
16 episode is better. more time to work things out

as for tonight's episode SPOILERS FOR TONIGHT LEAVE NOW




















freaken awesome. is it just me, or is carl more muscled. i love how lost is able to hire noname actors will great acting skills. also, WTF@miles talking to ghost or something. the other 3 are pretty 'normal' in their flashbacks. Ben is awesome.

Gilbert
The strike is over!

Maybe Lost will air as normal?

MAYBE?!
epsilonwolf
They better start churnin them out. They've got six weeks to put out episode nine.
City
i hope they dont get pressured into making episodes.

the reason why i was happy with the 16 episode seasons was so they had time to develop the story, you know, pace it so nothing feels rush. if they can do it, cool. But i dont want s***ty episodes so ABC can have something for May Sweeps. Maybe they can have like a 2 week break after episode 8, so then the rest of the season can air without reruns. Call me a lost fanboy, but i have fate in the show and i trust them. i want the writers to feel proud of the show without regret.
emptytuesday
I bet Michael is on the boat.
JK852
Lt. Daniels is one creepy mofo in this show. So are Oceanic and Dharma in cahoots?!
epsilonwolf
QUOTE(emptytuesday @ Feb 9 2008, 03:17 PM) *
I bet Michael is on the boat.


Yeah I thought about that a bit too. But I don't think he's Ben's informant. Theres just no way for him to do that. Maybe the informant is Walt seeing as he can astroproject his body now.
emptytuesday
True

But I heard that Michael is going to come back for a few episodes.

Eh. Maybe I'm wrong, but it would be smart of them to have a character that we know and have become familiar with.

I think Boone should be on the boat. (;
epsilonwolf
*spoilers ahead*

So Ben somehow gets off the island. I guess that doesn't bode well for the new island visitors whom seem to want him six feet under. Am I alone in starting to want less story and more character development in flash fowards/backs than we've gotten so far this season?
City
WHAT THE ****KKKKKKKKK?

at first, i though he went to visit Jack, but then i was like, "jack won't kill people," then the doctor talked and i knew he sounded like Ben, but Ben isnt a doctor...then bam. WHAT THE ****KKKK.

i dont know if it's Ben or Ben has clones (i hope its not clones cuz that would be lame.)


epsilonwolf
Nah, that's not a clone...or it better not be because 'attack of the ben clones' is where I stop being a fan if you know what I mean.

I guess as bad as Ben is, the Dharma Initiative is the more pressing evil right now. I think they've got to be Dharma. When Locke blew up old Igor's media hutt, or whatever one-eye's name was...oh yeah Mikhail...Dharma must have been alerted the hostiles had taken over. So they somehow figured out Ben was central to the coup and are now hunting him.
JK852
QUOTE(epsilonwolf @ Feb 14 2008, 08:38 PM) *
Am I alone in starting to want less story and more character development in flash fowards/backs than we've gotten so far this season?


Yes. Flashbacks are often a lazy way to create character development. I'll be okay if the new boat people got a character developing flashbacks. But seriously I can't sit through another lame Jack emo/sob-fest.
Gilbert
i. am. so. pissed.

My DVR didn't record the very very end of LOST. Right when we were about to see the doctor. It cut off. FRIcK ON A STICK WITH A BRICK.

I'll have to watch it online tomorrow.

GAH.
emptytuesday
QUOTE(Gilbert @ Feb 1 2008, 01:30 AM) *
I bet only six actually left the island. They might all be alive, just not *~home~*



That was what I was thinking.

So it's...

Jack
Kate
Sayid
Hurley
(does Ben count too?)
JK852
I read awhile ago that the final two were Jin and Sun.
michellefan7
QUOTE(emptytuesday @ Feb 19 2008, 11:35 PM) *
That was what I was thinking.

So it's...

Jack
Kate
Sayid
Hurley
(does Ben count too?)



Lost is awesome this season!


My opinion on the "6" is that yes those six get off (can't wait to know who the final two are!)....but i bet more people get off the island, but weren't on the plane( AKA the original "others", like ben made it off, but wasn't on the flight).


And did anyone see last nights episode? Freakin sweet! Gets better every week! Plus the ending...That somehow Kate's baby is Erin!! I mean, what happen to Claire! . The season just gets better and better! biggrin.gif
City
what the ****!

the ending made me XD so bad. cuz i was thinking two things, why is the baby so big. and who's the dad. and when she said the baby's name, i was like "o s*** Claire got robbed."

and you guys dont need spoiler tags for stuff that has aired. just only future spoilers.
JK852
QUOTE(City @ Feb 21 2008, 09:19 PM) *
what the ****!

the ending made me XD so bad. cuz i was thinking two things, why is the baby so big. and who's the dad. and when she said the baby's name, i was like "o s*** Claire got robbed."

and you guys dont need spoiler tags for stuff that has aired. just only future spoilers.


I'm going to guess Claire is going to die somehow by Jack's actions. I'm saying this since her character's mostly useless now that Charlie kicked the bucket and Jack refuses to see the kid in the future.
epsilonwolf
I concur with your Jack-Clair-Aron scenario.

The flash-fowards are really working better and beyond all my expectations. They pack exponentially more surprise punches than did the flash-backs. Season 4 has not disapointed so far.

I suppose Locke going all 'Heart-of-Darkness' insane is consistant with the show's theme of turning all expectations on their head. If they succeed in transforming he who started off as the show's most poignantly sympathetic character into the evilest of all lunatics then hats off to them for the dramatic genius...but its still sad to see.
michellefan7
QUOTE(JK852 @ Feb 22 2008, 01:45 PM) *
I'm going to guess Claire is going to die somehow by Jack's actions. I'm saying this since her character's mostly useless now that Charlie kicked the bucket and Jack refuses to see the kid in the future.



Maybe that's who jack was so upset about at the end of last season when he went to the funeral!


Crap, i can't get enough of this season!!
epsilonwolf
Okay since Season 4 is the "Season of Flash-Fowards," I think it's interesting to ask when did we truelly get our first flash-foward?

Well you might say, 'Hehe that's easy epsilonwolf. We got it in the finale of season 3 when Jack and Kate did, among other things, a perfect reenactment of your ex repeatedly hanging up on you..."

Then, after shedding a quick tear, I'll say, "Perhaps..but it's not a slamdunk smart guy or gal!"

EXHIBIT A

In final scene of Season 2 finale 'Live Together, Die Alone' two scientists working for Penny Widmore (Desmond's girlfriend) in an artic location detect a magnetic event leading them to believe they've found the location of the island. One of them, identified in casting credits as a character named 'Mathias' excitedly calls Penny to tell her the news with a rather suspect Portugese accent. He is pictured below :



Casting credits identify the actor playing Mathias as one Len Cordova. He is pictured below as our exhibit B :

EXHIBIT B



Some crazy obsessed Lostie fans dispute the crafty actor bait and switch however. They think Mathias is actually played by Matthew Fox...which means Mathias is actually Jack! (Exhibit C pictured below) Crazy as these Lostie fans are, they've compiled some impressive evidence to suit their case. Notice Mathias's chin width and nose shape seems to match M Fox's more than Cordova. Also Fox's individual facial hair pattern is almost identical with Mathias. Lost writers almost always hide meaning in character names so could further hints to Mathias's true nature lay there? According to Wikipedia; Mathias' name in Portuguese is Matias.
The Gospel of Matthias is a lost text from the New Testament Apocrypha, ascribed to Matthias, the apostle chosen by lots to replace Judas Iscariot.
Hmmm, In Greek the word "apocryphal" (ἀπόκρυφος) was first applied, in a positive sense, to writings which were kept secret because they were the vehicles of esoteric knowledge considered too profound or too sacred to be disclosed to anyone other than the initiated.

EXHIBIT C


So what do you think? Is it possible the first flash-foward occured at the end of season two where a future off-island Jack is helping Penny relocate the island in an attempt to, "Go Baaaack!!!"?
City
tonight's episode was crazy. freaken desmond's face when he goes in and out of 'mind' time travel. XD. but damn, i would go bats*** if that happened to me. i almost teared up with the end when he called and penny picked up. smile.gif

jack was annoying me this episode. Daniel is awesome.

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